on Thu 20 Dec 2007 (22:16 GMT) (24250 views)
- The current beta of StuffPlug 3 can be installed using this trick. It's not 100% compatible, but it works.
- StuffPlug 3.9, to be released soon, will be compatible with WLM 8.5, but not with 9.0.
- StuffPlug 4.0, to be released somewhere next year, will be compatible with WLM 9.0, but not with earlier versions. WLM 9.0 has changed too many things internally to make a version that is both compatible with 8.0 and 9.0, so SP 3.9 will be the last version for WLM 8.x, and SP 4.0 will focus purely on WLM 9.0.
- As I'm currently in a rather nasty personal situation, none of the above mentioned release dates or spans are definitive. It all depends on how soon I get my ability to concentrate on this stuff back.
- The new major version number was mainly due to a complete overhaul of the user-interface, but as having a separate major release for WLM 9.0 makes much more sense, this user-interface overhaul will now be in 3.9 (and in 4.0 too, but it won't be an overhaul then, will it)
Beta testers have been shown ideas for the new UI and we have discussed where we want the add-on to go. Development appears to be positive and you should be getting excited for the new release (whenever that may be).
View TB's news post discussing the update
on Thu 06 Dec 2007 (22:40 GMT) (159735 views)
- Organize your conversations into tabs, or drag and drop a tab out to create a new window
- Keep up with your favorite contacts by dragging them into the Windows Sidebar gadget
- Send enhanced emoticons that have some extra oomph
- Change the color of your IM windows with a built-in skin chooser. Go crazy with a different skin for every IM window!
- Adjust the display size of your contacts with a handy slider
- Arrange your contact list into multiple columns just by resizing your window
- Send instant messages to your Yahoo! and Windows Live Messenger contacts
- Send files to friends as large as 2 GB
- Find contacts quickly with the contact search bar. Type in a few letters of the contact's name or ID and they'll come up in filtered results.
- As-you-type spell checker that's smart enough to know that 'LOL' is not something to correct
- A preferences menu you can access by right-clicking anywhere at the top of the main Messenger window
Yahoo! Messenger for Vista has its flaws. There are a lot of bugs and everything seems very basic at the moment. However, I can see a lot of potential and the idea totally re-designing the software should be on the table for Windows Live Messenger. I can see the completed product being very popular. You can view a video of Yahoo! Messenger for Windows Vista in action below:
Source: Yahoo! Messenger development blog
View some screenshots of Yahoo! Messenger for Windows Vista
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on Wed 28 Nov 2007 (18:27 GMT) (35739 views)
There are apparently about 5000 people officially (on Microsoft Connect) testing version 9.0.1407.1107, described by Microsoft as an alpha version and dubbed in the About window as 'Version 2009'. In the welcoming email to testers the Messenger team said:
Here at Messenger Stuff we are 100% against leaks and don't want to jeopardize the beta in any way. For this reason we will not be hosting or linking to any of the leaked setup files. However, we understand that many of you will like to know the changes, so I'm quoting a small changelog from mess.be:
- Sign-in and messaging in multiple locations - You asked for it, now you have it! You can now sign into Messenger from more than one computer at a time, up to four at once. Simply sign into Messenger from one computer, install Messenger on another computer and sign in using the same account. (Only works if all computers are running Messenger 9.0 Beta. Currently enabled only for users whose Windows Live ID country is US or Canada.)
- Signature sounds – Pick your own personal sound that your contacts will hear when you sign into Messenger (only works if you and your contacts have Messenger 9.0 Beta).
- Per contact sounds - Pick unique sounds for each of your contacts. You will be able to tell from across the room who is sending you a message.
- SPIM Reporting - If users send you unsolicited messages or invitations that you consider spam, you can block them and report them as spammers. If you report a user as a spammer, the messenger service will collect this data and put appropriate restrictions on the spammer accounts. All reports of spammers are kept confidential.
- Animated Display Pictures – Show your moves! Messenger now supports animated .gif files as display pictures.
- Link in Personal Status Message – URLs in Personal Status Messages are hot and clickable in the Messenger contact list.
- Behind the Scenes Changes – Architectural changes that modified how things work but shouldn't have changed how things look
- Changes to sign-in, connectivity, presence, sending text IM’s, voice & video features Windows Live Contacts Server – wlcomm.exe runs in the background to keep your contacts’ information up-to-date and helps Messenger sign you in faster
The current version of Messenger Plus! Live (4.23) is "incompatible" with the new beta but Patchou has already said that the latest version of Messenger Plus! Live (version 4.50), due for release in the first week of December, will be compatible. A version of A-Patch has already been made for the new beta.
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on Thu 22 Nov 2007 (18:48 GMT) (8855 views)
A few days ago invitations to the Windows Live Messenger 9.0 BETA were sent to ~1000 testers. At this point we're all under NDA, so no information or screenshots can be made available. The public beta should be starting soon so keep your eyes on your inbox because it's first come first serve. As soon as the word is given, we're going to feature a full review of the beta as well as some possible invites for our readers! So, keep checking back for updates!
on Sun 16 Sep 2007 (10:23 GMT) (3720 views)
My name is Aaron, and I'm a PM for the Messenger Voice, Video and Sounds team. We recently released an update to our earlier 8.5 Beta (which Jason pointed out earlier) that has many improvements to video call, especially on Vista. If you've occasionally run into audio jitter or noise in a Video Call, our latest version should help. We also improved echo support and a small issue with the volume sliders.
I want small improvements like this to be applied all over Windows Live Messenger. You all must have a pet hate feature that you find horrible to use (adding emoticons or sending files to a contact for example). I've also noticed the Messenger team are blogging a lot more and there appears to be some new faces.
Source: MessengerSays blog
on Thu 06 Sep 2007 (19:14 GMT) (8954 views)
So what's new? Well nothing really noticeable, just bug fixes according to the offical Messenger blog. Nevertheless, the build is just really to attract users to the new installer as there is no separate download at the moment, unless you download the files below. Here are some facts about the update:
- Windows Live Installer has come under very heavy criticism, all comments tend to be negative, I believe a lot of this comes down to the speed and ease of use of the program.
- It is not compatible with x64 editions of Windows. Unless you try this hack.
- A-Patch and Mess Patch have been updated to work with the new Windows Live Messenger beta.
- Messenger Plus! Live is fully compatible with the new build according to creator Patchou.
Personally, beta is still bloated and annoying to use for me. All my settings have been modified and I'm finding more and more annoying little bugs. If this is what the finished product will be I'm sticking with 8.1. I'm sure these will be addressed by the final release though.
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on Thu 21 Jun 2007 (19:59 GMT) (14932 views)
So far it appears that this update is only available to existing 8.5 beta users through Windows/Microsoft Update as it has apparently only been made "to test how Microsoft Updates are distributed for Windows Live Messenger". Also there are apparently are no changes from the previous build.
The update is listed as "high priority" on Microsoft Update and is only 6.6MB in size, compared to the 18MB of the installer of the last build. This suggests that, in the future, Microsoft will be using QFE ("quick fix engineering" - aka a hotfix) patches to update Windows Live Messenger, as they did a few times for MSN Messenger 7.5.
Here are the details from Microsoft Update:
Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta 1 Update 1
Date last published: 6/21/2007
Download size: 6.6 MB
This update is being used to test how Microsoft Updates are distributed for Windows Live Messenger. While there are no actual changes to Messenger at this time, it's important for Messenger Beta testers to receive this update. Thanks for helping test Messenger!
Recommended CPU: Not specified.
Recommended memory: Not specified.
Recommended hard disk space: Not specified.
How to Uninstall
This software update can be removed via Add or Remove Programs in Control Panel.
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Patchou has said that the latest version of Messenger Plus! Live (4.23) is compatible with this new build.
on Thu 31 May 2007 (19:50 GMT) (11046 views)
MessengerSays mentions nothing on the leak, but talks about the build. You could question the release, most MVP's and interns believed 9.0 was the only version in development. The build no longer supports machines running anything older than Windows XP SP2, and finally moves settings into a new directory (Program Files/Windows Live/Messenger), which is creating problems for 3rd party addons.
Messenger Plus! Live will have an update to support the new beta soon, however there are problems where Plus! installs itself (if you re-install WLM, Plus! may no longer hook correctly because it is installed in a different directory).
I just want to note the public beta is no different than the leak of the other day. If you're having trouble installing the new beta, read this (apparently there are a few issues with the new installer).
Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta (English/UK)
Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta (English/US)
Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta (English/India)
Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta (French/France)
Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta (German)
Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta (Spanish/US)
Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta (Spanish/Spain)
Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta (Chinese [Simplified])
Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta (Japanese)
on Sun 27 May 2007 (18:11 GMT) (49553 views)
The build was apparently leaked to the website Messenger Adictos by a Microsoft MVP who managed to get hold of it as it was being distributed to Microsoft employees. Messenger Adictos then compressed the installer inside their own branded installer, to gain publicity, which you can download at their website.
The main changes in the build are obviously the UI and the installer which are so clear when you download and install it that I feel no need to talk about here. The other main change is apparently "reinforced security" including integration with Windows Live OneCare and Windows Live Family Safety.
The leaked build is in Spanish but you can download the English language dll here, or according to mess.be "you can copy the old language file ("msglang.dll") of Windows Live Messenger 8.1.0178 over the new one ("msglang.8.5.1235.0517.dll"). Note that the installation directory has also been changed to "C:/Program Files/Windows Live/Messenger" making the transition from MSN Messenger to Windows Live Messenger complete".
You can make Messenger Plus! Live work with it by following MenthiX's instructions at MsgHelp, however you should note that Messenger Plus! Lives chat logging no longer seems to work (as reported here). You can also make most of the StuffPlug features work by moving the msacm32.dll file (located in the old MSN Messenger folder) into the new Windows Live/Messenger folder.
I find it important to note the reliability of the build. Although it is well known that the Messenger team are working the next milestone (version 9) they are known to work on builds that are two or three versions away from the next release. Apparently this leaked build is an internal beta of the next version of Messenger which will be 8.5, an interim release. There was talk of there not being a version 8.5 at all and that this version was just a skin, however the changes in the installer and the interface, both of which seem to be to match the look of other Windows Live software such as Windows Live Writer and Windows Live Mail, and the fact that the installer is digitally signed by Microsoft seem to point to an official 8.5 beta coming soon, even if it is just to prepare us for version 9.
Download Windows Live Messenger 8.5 public beta (US English) (link updated)
Download the English language dll for Windows Live Messenger 8.5 leaked beta
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on Wed 23 May 2007 (20:36 GMT) (29718 views)
The application is currently in beta and supports most modern phones and allows you to connect to your Windows Live/MSN, Yahoo! and AIM accounts.
I've been testing it for a few weeks and have to say that it is incredibly easy to use and very useful. Wherever I am with just a few button pushes I can see who is online and chat to them (and more) using the feature-filled application.
Now I've written a comprehensive guide, including screenshots, to show you what it allows you to do and how.
Read my tutorial and review on our forums
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