Facebook Chat integration coming to Windows Live Messenger?
Posted by absorbation on Sun 21 Mar 2010 (14:39 GMT) (3586 views)
There has been a consensus that instant messaging is in decline while the popularity of social networking websites are on a rapid rise. Although statistics suggest otherwise, the buzz around IM seems to be stagnant, or at least from my perspective. IM is in desperate need of life and perhaps embracing social networking in will be the panacea it needs.

LiveSide has uncovered evidence to suggest Windows Live Messenger 2010 is likely to implement Facebook Chat integration. What does this mean? You can chat to your friends on Facebook from within Messenger.

Microsoft currently possesses a 1.6% share in Facebook, estimated to be worth $15bn. It is a logical step that the company would want to expand its involvement in one of the biggest websites on the Internet today.

However, the extend to how integrated the two platforms are going to be is open to doubt. Unlike when Windows Live Messenger allowed you to talk to your Yahoo! Messenger contacts, the differences in protocols may create some heavy limitations. LiveSide comments:

What this possibly means though is that your Windows Live contacts are not fully integrated with your Facebook contacts. For example, a person may be online on Messenger as well as Facebook chat, but might appear as two different contacts on your Messenger contact list. Guess we'll have to live with that given that it'd be quite complicated to match your Windows Live contacts with Facebook's contact. We wonder if any other social networks or protocols will be supported though!



Source: LiveSide - Windows Live Messenger Wave 4: Interoperability with Facebook chat



One can infer there has been a social revolution in terms of communication within the past couple of decades. One Computer Science professor I recently met compared the growth of the Internet to something as significant as the printing press. Emails created a new wave of productivity and when they became instant messages, the Internet became more responsive, while the introduction of websites such as Facebook have made the web more social. Has the social networking revolution damaged instant messaging? There is evidence to suggest this may be true. How are the IM giants reacting? TechCrunch argues not very much.

Historically, IM has existed on closed and proprietary systems, with dedicated clients that can only connect to a single network. For many years users with accounts on multiple networks (say, AOL and MSN), would have to keep multiple programs open, which ate up system resources and cluttered desktops. By 2000 a handful of clients emerged that would allow users to manage multiple IM accounts from a single program. These stayed largely under the radar until 2002, when a client called Trillian hit 1 million downloads (and then jumped to 5 million six months later).



IM is also ripe for innovation, but developers have been hampered by a near-complete lack of cooperation from the major IM networks. Perhaps developers will take advantage of the growing number of networks that are open, adding new features that make them attractive to users still stuck on the old behemoths. Then Yahoo and Microsoft might be compelled to finally change - or perish.



The article examines how recent integration is only a piecemeal solution, with no efficient, direct change being achieved. The argument is that Microsoft and Yahoo! should open up their IM clients and be able to talk to everyone. I highly recommend reading the full article.

As IM Finally Begins To Open Up, Yahoo And Microsoft Cling To The Stone Age


Messenger United: Facebook working with Windows Live Messenger
Posted by absorbation on Mon 11 Aug 2008 (10:53 GMT) (2505 views)
I recently received an email from Windows Live, targeting me because of university and the fact I live in the UK. I get these on a weekly basis, mainly showing me attractive offers and ways to win some interesting prizes. Today though, I got an email containing information on a new Windows Live service to integrate Facebook with Windows Live Messenger.

Have you ever wanted to have all your online contacts in one place? With Invite2Messenger, now you can! This great new service allows you to easily invite your Facebook contacts over to chat on Windows Live Messenger.

You can now also access and update your Facebook account within Messenger. Check your messages or write on your friend's wall. Send a cheeky poke or browse through photo albums. You can even update your status directly from Messenger!


The service will expand to other social networking websites such as Bebo and Hi5 soon. (Emphasis and links added to quote)

Visit the Messenger United website
More info on accessing Facebook within Messenger


Zune 2.5 + WLM (finally) = now playing integration
Posted by the andyman on Sun 11 May 2008 (18:19 GMT) (2856 views)
Just a quick note to let you know that the recently updated Zune software now supports Windows Live Messenger's "show what I'm listening to" personal message feature.

If you're fed up with you computer's media player looking like a spreadsheet or want to try something fresh for your music, pictures and videos then I thoroughly recommend giving the Zune software a try.

Whether you have a Zune device or not (which is more likely to be the case due to its current US exclusivity) you can give version 2.5 of the software a try for all your basic media player features and a lot more, including social features, marketplace integration and a great interface.

Download or find out more about the Zune software



Gmail and AIM finally unite with full integration!
Posted by absorbation on Wed 05 Dec 2007 (21:21 GMT) (2145 views)
We already knew it was under development, but today Google have finally release integration with AIM. Now you can use Gmail to chat to your AIM buddies:

From the beginning, Google has been committed to open standards and interoperation for instant messaging. So when our friends at AOL agreed to let Gmail users talk to users on their network, we jumped at the chance.

Today we are happy to tell you about a new feature we've started to roll out which will enable you to sign into your AIM account and chat with your AIM buddies right inside Gmail. When you log in to AIM through Gmail chat, your AOL buddies will appear in your chat list with friends from your Google Talk network, and you will see the yellow 'running man' logo to the right of your AIM friends' screen names. To your AIM friends it will look like you are logged in to AIM as usual.



Google look committed to expanding this onto several IM networks and who knows, one day Google Talk could be used to talk to friends using several IM clients. The only thing stopping this from ever happening is from a business perspective. I just can't see Microsoft handing over its users potentially to use Google Talk.

Source: Official Gmail blog



Further integration plans for Messenger? Doesn't look like it ...
Posted by absorbation on Sun 25 Nov 2007 (11:43 GMT) (1464 views)
Integration between multiple IM clients has become a big thing recently. Instant Messaging becomes a lot easier when you can talk to friends who all have different IM habits. Recently a presentation by Microsoft employee Andrew Jenks has raised attention to this issue again, this time hoping to expand Windows Live Messenger to integrate with more IM clients.

However Clive Jones, vice-president of Windows Live has responded to this news denying that any work like this is in development:

There was a presentation by one of the folks at Microsoft at Georgia Tech that talked a little bit about the future of Messenger. Can you talk a little bit about that? It mentioned some things like interoperability with AOL and Google as being in the works.

Jones: I think that the person works on my team, and they were quoted out of context. We obviously have some work that we're working on with Messenger in terms of the platform and the direction that we're headed, but the things that were quoted and said, they aren't on our roadmap in any kind of public way.

Where are things as far as interoperability with some of the other folks?

Jones: We have an agreement with Yahoo on interop, and that's about the extent of what we've done. I can't discuss things on other networks, but certainly we've had conversations with other folks. And the work that we've done on our contact interchange is just an example of the kinds of things that we’ll expect to do in the future.

I do think over time IM networks are going to interoperate. It's just challenging from a business perspective for everybody to agree to do that right now.



Looking at the statement, we can see Microsoft want to integrate across multiple platforms, but are restricted by the other companies working together.

Source: MsgAddict


Google Talk and AIM move a step closer towards working together
Posted by absorbation on Mon 12 Nov 2007 (19:43 GMT) (3074 views)
Yahoo! and Windows Live Messenger have worked together for over a year now, but development on Google Talk and AIM has been slow. However, the deal is still in full swing and the status of development has been posted at the Google Operating System blog.

Integration is similar to that of web messengers in the way you can sign into one IM network at a time, but sign in through the same client. Google already supports other IM clients as pointed out by Adam Dempsey.

Google Talk working with several clients is key to get more users. Most IM networks are old and have already built up their user base. Google still need to attract users and it is doubtful it can fulfill the IM market without allowing users to use the IM client of their choice.

If this gets rolled out to regular users, there will soon be two major IM camps: Yahoo-Microsoft and Google-AOL. It's funny how a $1 billion investment gets things moving along.



Source: Google Operating System Blog



Google Talk to integrate with AIM this year
Posted by absorbation on Sun 14 Jan 2007 (18:23 GMT) (1739 views)
It was announced over a year ago that Google and AOL would join forces with their instant messaging clients. The change is similar to what Microsoft and Yahoo! were doing, however Google had some high demands from AOL, hence the delay.

Google Talk and AIM have a similar protocol, but Google wants a gateway in the servers, to make sure there are no issues getting screen names etc from AIM.

Quotation from Justin Uberti, who has worked with both Google and AIM:

On the Google side, I can simply refer to our official statement, and give our stock answer, "We are working actively on integrating AIM access in Google Talk."
[...]
AOL also appears to be working on an XMPP gateway for AIM, which would allow XMPP/Jabber clients to access the AIM network using AIM screen names. Based on the public information, it looks like this should be available in the near future.


Compatibility with other clients looks like the future for instant messengers. I wonder if one day, MSN and Windows Live Messenger will work with Google Talk, I personally would love to see that happen.

Source: Google Operating System blog



Getting Google Talk to work with MSN and Windows Live Messenger
Posted by absorbation on Fri 22 Dec 2006 (15:07 GMT) (1719 views)
Yahoo! Messenger working with Windows Live Messenger became big news, it meant millions more could communicate in what are two of the biggest giants in the world of instant messengers. Microsoft chose Yahoo! for a reason, not because they thought it would be better for business, but because Yahoo! Messenger and MSN Messenger work in the same way.

It's all down to the protocols, and because I am not a wiz in this area, despite touching on the subject before, it's the only reason why it works. Google and AOL have also teamed up, and they use a different protocol to that of Yahoo! and Microsoft.

Michael Miller has explained how to get Google Talk to work with many different IM networks, going through each step in what is a rather large article. If you are interested I suggest following the link below and giving it a read.

Read 'Hacking Google Talk to Work with AIM, MSN Messenger, and Yahoo! Messenger'


OK the headline may seem confusing, maybe a bit ambiguous. However, if your messenger account does not have the Yahoo! Messenger integration switched on, you will receive an alert saying how you can sign up for it when you sign into Windows Live Messenger. This probably means the messenger team are seeking a lot of testers for the integration, so it works smoothly and runs perfectly.

The alert comes up in a form of a large toast, hopefully to grab your attention. It leaves a message in your contact list reminding you that you have alerts waiting, just in case you missed the toast. Maybe we can expect updates to Windows Live Messenger to be dished out in the same way? I mean you can hardly miss the message.

The promotion is a good thing really, the more testers, the more chance of bugs being fixed etc. Yahoo! and Microsoft are competing against AOL and Google to come out with the best integration between their instant message clients. All companies are working really hard, but essentially one team will come out better than the other. Yahoo! and Microsoft seem to have won the battle, but who will win the war?

Sign up for the Yahoo! Messenger integration
View the toast popup