on Wed 11 Feb 2009 (22:40 GMT) (774 views)
Historically, IM has existed on closed and proprietary systems, with dedicated clients that can only connect to a single network. For many years users with accounts on multiple networks (say, AOL and MSN), would have to keep multiple programs open, which ate up system resources and cluttered desktops. By 2000 a handful of clients emerged that would allow users to manage multiple IM accounts from a single program. These stayed largely under the radar until 2002, when a client called Trillian hit 1 million downloads (and then jumped to 5 million six months later).
IM is also ripe for innovation, but developers have been hampered by a near-complete lack of cooperation from the major IM networks. Perhaps developers will take advantage of the growing number of networks that are open, adding new features that make them attractive to users still stuck on the old behemoths. Then Yahoo and Microsoft might be compelled to finally change - or perish.
The article examines how recent integration is only a piecemeal solution, with no efficient, direct change being achieved. The argument is that Microsoft and Yahoo! should open up their IM clients and be able to talk to everyone. I highly recommend reading the full article.
As IM Finally Begins To Open Up, Yahoo And Microsoft Cling To The Stone Ageon Mon 11 Aug 2008 (10:53 GMT) (1969 views)
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From the beginning, Google has been committed to open standards and interoperation for instant messaging. So when our friends at AOL agreed to let Gmail users talk to users on their network, we jumped at the chance.
Today we are happy to tell you about a new feature we've started to roll out which will enable you to sign into your AIM account and chat with your AIM buddies right inside Gmail. When you log in to AIM through Gmail chat, your AOL buddies will appear in your chat list with friends from your Google Talk network, and you will see the yellow 'running man' logo to the right of your AIM friends' screen names. To your AIM friends it will look like you are logged in to AIM as usual.
Google look committed to expanding this onto several IM networks and who knows, one day Google Talk could be used to talk to friends using several IM clients. The only thing stopping this from ever happening is from a business perspective. I just can't see Microsoft handing over its users potentially to use Google Talk.
Source: Official Gmail blog
on Sun 25 Nov 2007 (11:43 GMT) (1321 views)
However Clive Jones, vice-president of Windows Live has responded to this news denying that any work like this is in development:
There was a presentation by one of the folks at Microsoft at Georgia Tech that talked a little bit about the future of Messenger. Can you talk a little bit about that? It mentioned some things like interoperability with AOL and Google as being in the works.
Jones: I think that the person works on my team, and they were quoted out of context. We obviously have some work that we're working on with Messenger in terms of the platform and the direction that we're headed, but the things that were quoted and said, they aren't on our roadmap in any kind of public way.
Where are things as far as interoperability with some of the other folks?
Jones: We have an agreement with Yahoo on interop, and that's about the extent of what we've done. I can't discuss things on other networks, but certainly we've had conversations with other folks. And the work that we've done on our contact interchange is just an example of the kinds of things that we’ll expect to do in the future.
I do think over time IM networks are going to interoperate. It's just challenging from a business perspective for everybody to agree to do that right now.
Looking at the statement, we can see Microsoft want to integrate across multiple platforms, but are restricted by the other companies working together.
Source: MsgAddicton Mon 12 Nov 2007 (19:43 GMT) (2572 views)

Integration is similar to that of web messengers in the way you can sign into one IM network at a time, but sign in through the same client. Google already supports other IM clients as pointed out by Adam Dempsey.
Google Talk working with several clients is key to get more users. Most IM networks are old and have already built up their user base. Google still need to attract users and it is doubtful it can fulfill the IM market without allowing users to use the IM client of their choice.
If this gets rolled out to regular users, there will soon be two major IM camps: Yahoo-Microsoft and Google-AOL. It's funny how a $1 billion investment gets things moving along.
Source: Google Operating System Blog
Google Talk and AIM have a similar protocol, but Google wants a gateway in the servers, to make sure there are no issues getting screen names etc from AIM.
Quotation from Justin Uberti, who has worked with both Google and AIM:
On the Google side, I can simply refer to our official statement, and give our stock answer, "We are working actively on integrating AIM access in Google Talk."
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AOL also appears to be working on an XMPP gateway for AIM, which would allow XMPP/Jabber clients to access the AIM network using AIM screen names. Based on the public information, it looks like this should be available in the near future.
Compatibility with other clients looks like the future for instant messengers. I wonder if one day, MSN and Windows Live Messenger will work with Google Talk, I personally would love to see that happen.
Source: Google Operating System blog
on Fri 22 Dec 2006 (15:07 GMT) (1559 views)
It's all down to the protocols, and because I am not a wiz in this area, despite touching on the subject before, it's the only reason why it works. Google and AOL have also teamed up, and they use a different protocol to that of Yahoo! and Microsoft.
Michael Miller has explained how to get Google Talk to work with many different IM networks, going through each step in what is a rather large article. If you are interested I suggest following the link below and giving it a read.
Read 'Hacking Google Talk to Work with AIM, MSN Messenger, and Yahoo! Messenger'The alert comes up in a form of a large toast, hopefully to grab your attention. It leaves a message in your contact list reminding you that you have alerts waiting, just in case you missed the toast. Maybe we can expect updates to Windows Live Messenger to be dished out in the same way? I mean you can hardly miss the message.
The promotion is a good thing really, the more testers, the more chance of bugs being fixed etc. Yahoo! and Microsoft are competing against AOL and Google to come out with the best integration between their instant message clients. All companies are working really hard, but essentially one team will come out better than the other. Yahoo! and Microsoft seem to have won the battle, but who will win the war?
Sign up for the Yahoo! Messenger integration
View the toast popup
Contacts on the different services are currently able to do things including sending each other messages, emoticons and nudges - and can even see each other's personal messages. The only feature missing at the moment appears to be the ability to share files. Apparently there is no noticeable delay when communicating between Windows Live and Yahoo! Messenger.
As the interoperability is being released in beta it needs to be enabled for your account here, at ideas.live.com. As well as you needing to be on this beta to be able to contact Yahoo! buddies any you do want to chat to must be using the new beta version of "Yahoo! Messenger with Voice", and enable it for their Yahoo! account by joining the beta here.
But if you are wanting it enabled for your Windows Live Messenger account you better hurry: apparently to begin with only 500,000 users will get it enabled. Then more people will be able to use it by recieving invites from existing users, as was done with the Windows Live Messenger beta. This is to make sure that the transition to using MSNP14 will go smoothly, and the number of users should be slowly increased until everyone will have it enabled.
However, beware if you are currently using Messenger Plus! Live - by joining the beta you upgraded your account and enable the new protocol (MSNP14) which conflicts with Messenger Plus! Live. Nicknames become replaced with numbers: Windows Live Messenger contacts' names become a "1" and Yahoo! Messenger names become "32" in things like the event viewer. As we previously announced, Patchou plans to release Messenger Plus! Live 4.01 soon and he has said that this issue will be fixed in it, and that it should be out this weekend.
This is only the first version of the integration and Microsoft and Yahoo! plan to add a few more cross-network features in the future.
Sign up for the beta (with a Windows Live Messenger account)
Sign up for the beta (with a Yahoo! account)
More info at Windows Live Messenger team blog
Info about changes within Messenger by the MSNP14 upgrade
Microsoft press release about the interoperability
Download Windows Live Messenger (version 8)
Download Yahoo! Messenger with Voice beta (version 8)
Info from Patchou about Messenger Plus! Live 4.01


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