on Tue 14 Oct 2008 (20:01 GMT) (1633 views)
For the past few weeks I have been playing around with 9 seeing what has changed and how far we can push things. I have to say that although there are a lot of changes and nearly double the amount of layout files to modify, overall 9 is going to bring some really interesting things to the table. One of the things I am looking forward to playing with is with some of the new effects that Messenger 9 brings such as fades, text glows and other types of animation.
I should also point out that I am only able to modify 9 because of a small workaround that was discovered that allows us to force Messenger to use its old layout files over the new ones. This allows skins, Messenger addons and patches to do their thing on 9 once again. Most people are counting this as a victory saying that stuff is possible again on 9, but really all this was was something to buy us some time. The old layout files have a really high chance of not existing in the final version of 9 so we will be back to square one.
The main problem about 9 still exists and in order for things to survive in the final version of 9 the new layout file format of Messenger 9 has to be figured out properly or we will be stuck with not being able to modify Messenger again. This new layout file isn't standard XML and style information that we can easily edit with any text editor, instead it is some weird file type that can't be read or edited properly without cracking it.
This is one the reasons for the delay of the Messenger Plus! Live public beta (although the feature is working fully for testers), and why patches took so long to be released this time. Willz has also been showing off some new skins, and overall it looks like there is some great new stuff available in Wave 3, despite the workarounds required to achieve them.
Design evolved: Whats happening?
Design evolved: Windows Live Messenger 9 - The Gift and the CurseFaster Call Connect Time. This would be the first thing that you'll notice when you call a friend using our latest Windows Live Messenger. You will be connected and talking in less time than ever before! Not only that but we've done quite a bit to improve the sound clarity and video sharpness in addition to adding higher resolution video modes (if your hardware and connection supports it). We believe you'll be quite happy with the improvements our team has made here.
As hardware technology advanced, so did we: If you have a dual core PC, recent webcam and fast broadband connection; you will benefit more from Full Screen Video Call. Because if you have a dual core PC, and you switch to full screen during your video call; it will be upgraded to High Quality Video Call.
Great news, as the video calling system, which has been in place for years has quickly became outdated. The development team have started to take into account the new developments in processing power and availability to larger bandwidth. Seriously, the improvement from 8.5 is uncanny. Kudos to whoever is now project managing and developing Windows Live Messenger.
MessengerSays: Improved voice and video features in new version of Messenger
According to an email sent out tonight to users of MSN Direct Spot watches, which will not support the new Wave 3 version, Windows Live Messenger is set to be released on February 10, "2008" (sic). The email gives the correct start date for the beta (Sept 17, 2008). Of course it remains to be seen whether or not the release schedule is met, but this gives us some indication of the timetable for Wave 3 final releases.
The find was discovered by Microsoft MVP Johnathan Kay, an expert in MSN/ Windows Live Messenger. However, although I do not doubt the legitimacy of the email, I have a few concerns as this was not a message sent by the Windows Live Messenger team. Firstly, the date claims to be in February 2008, which has already passed, but many have inferred this to be a typo. Secondly, Microsoft rarely announce release dates because any midnight bugs may show up. Finally the exact date of February 10th is odd because it is over 4 months away and development progress may be completed way before then. I'm calling my bluff on this one.
View the screenshot of the email- The MessengerSays blog, the official blog of Windows Live Messenger, has gone through the details of the Wave 3 update explaining each new feature in depth, complete with screenshots and even videos.
- A-Patch has been updated for the Wave 3 beta version. Following concern over the future development of skins and patches, the popular Messenger patching application has found a walk-a-round and has been updated to include a vast amount of features. For those of you who hate ads, or certain things within Messenger, this is your chance to block them out.
- The Windows Live Messenger library has been updated to version 2.5 which improves on the web API of the program, giving web developers more access to the workings of the Messenger servers.
- Patchou has commented on a version of Messenger Plus! Live for Windows Live Messenger 9. He told users: "I'll start working on it today [Wednesday 17/9] but I can't say yet if I'll release something publicly before the final version is released by Microsoft or not (all of that depends on when they'll actually release a final)."
- LiveSide have revealed how they found the Wave 3 download links, and defended themselves for making them public. I believe they are still very bitter about their DMCA notice they received a few weeks ago (as are we), and have tried to persuade Microsoft to have better PR relations. They make a valid point.
- Cleaner icons and softer sounds have replaced the current ones
- The toolbar menu has been removed, and the email button enlarged and placed to the right
- Contacts now have new hover effects
- Display picture containers change colour depending on your and your contacts' status
- A new feature called "What's new" gives updates on alternating contacts at the bottom of your contact list
- A "Change your Scene" feature allows you to change the header background image in the contact list
- There is a layout option within the options menu
- The statuses "Out to lunch", "In a call" and "Be right back" have been removed
- A chat history button has been added to conversations
The update is still incompatible with Messenger Plus! Live, however Patchou has told users: "I'll start working on it today but I can't say yet if I'll release something publicly before the final version is released by Microsoft or not (all of that depends on when they'll actually release a final)."
Personally, this version is the improvement I have wanted for years. A cleaner design, that doesn't really need patching, and highly customisable features, along with a more polished feel, is what Messenger should be. The new sounds and icons seem refreshed and as if they have been created by someone with a good eye for program design. Wave 3 gets the big thumbs up from Messenger Stuff.
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on Fri 05 Sep 2008 (14:28 GMT) (4622 views)
- Personalisation – We've talked about the new Wave 3 header before, but what we haven't really talked about is how it can be personalised. With Wave 3, the header allows for theming across Windows Live using "scenes", meaning that the UI you see in Messenger is also the UI you see on the web. As the image on the right shows, users can select their own background image – maybe its time for some LiveSide themed screenshots? This was discussed in one of our first ever interviews with Phil Holden over 2 years ago, so its great to see this finally come to fruition.
- Simplified header - As well as having the new Wave 3 UI, the header at the top of the contact list has also had a redesign, removing a lot of the clutter. Gone are many of the buttons like Windows Live Call, Windows Live Today, Spaces, Mobile messaging etc, leaving just a simplified Hotmail notification icon on the right hand side. This is something we're not so surprised about, we heard a while ago that usage of these extras was very low (think less than 1 percentage of all users).
- Improved Personal Status Message (PSM) – The PSM was first introduced in Messenger v7 along with the music PSM, showing your contacts what you are listening to. Since then not much has changed, despite some intrepid investigators noticing that there are Office and Games icons contained within Messenger for use in this area. With Wave 3 this upgraded PSM allows users to show both their regular status and music updates at the same time.
- The new buddy icons - There's two parts to this. The most obvious point is the removal of the messenger buddy icon to be replaced with a coloured tile [the andyman adds: more similar to those in Microsoft Office Communicator]. Then there’s also the new new online presence indicator, which both colours the tiles and surrounds display pictures in the form of a glow. See the Favorites at the top of the contact list for an example of this. Presumably green is available, orange is away and red is busy - could we also see this implemented at the top of the new Wave 3 header for online services?
- The "What's new feed" - This is my pick for underrated killer feature. Much like the existing Spaces homepage and the Facebook news feed, this displays notifications showing what your contacts are doing. Check out what playlists your Zune friends have made, or what files they’ve added to Skydrive for example. This should drive cross-platform integration in a big way, and turn Windows Live into a truly cohesive web platform. Can you tell I like this? See also the individual contact feed in the conversation window showing new photos are being shared online.
- Tabs – No not the kind you chat through, the kind that links to other online services which Microsoft wishes to promote. These have been moved from the side of the contact list down to the bottom, just above the advertisement, saving screen real estate and making them less intrusive.
We ran through some of the other new features already in our first post about Messenger Wave 3, here’s a quick summary:- Favourite Contacts - these are the contacts you are most interested in. Positioning this special group of contacts at the top gives you at-a-glance information about their status and activities
- Groups – Allowing groups of contacts to communicate with each other through Group IM, this update takes the existing multi-party chat functionality to a new level. Of course it also opens up others scenarios such as sharing files and photos.
- PhotoShare application - This is a new application that allows users to transfer photos to their contacts for viewing. The main part of the conversation window shows a large preview for one of the photos, with the right hand side column showing smaller previews for the upcoming photos
All in all this news sounds great. It looks like Wave 3 has brought out the best in Windows Live Messenger and taken the program a lot further than past updates have, including taking into consideration a lot of suggestions made in previous betas. There also appear to be other new features hidden away in those screenshots so keep your eyes peeled!
There have, however, been conflicting statements by some M2 testers who claim not to have the same design as the one shown within the screenshots which adds more light to the theory that these are M3 (or final version) mockups. But then again we'll will just have to wait and see.
View screenshot 1 of WLM 9 M2
View screenshot 2 of WLM 9 M2on Sat 30 Aug 2008 (17:33 GMT) (1646 views)
The Windows Live Team invites you to be an extension of our development process by giving us feedback on our software. You'll be helping us ensure that we deliver a great experience to all Windows Live users.
As a Windows Live beta tester you'll have an opportunity to try out multiple Windows Live products as part of a single beta program! As always, this beta program contains all of the great components you've come to expect from a Windows Live beta, including the ability to file bugs and talk to the product teams in private newsgroups.
Unlike past betas, this is a small-scale beta with a very limited number of open seats. The nomination survey will close as soon as we reach our target number. If you want to participate in this beta, please act quickly. (Early entry doesn't guarantee final approval)
So those of who you received the email, looks like you have a chance of beta testing the new Windows Live Messenger/ other Windows Live products. One thing we noticed during the survey however, was a question saying "Do you have friends that use Messenger and would like to participate in a beta with you so that you can test new features together?". Could this hint at the ability to invite further friends to the product? We doubt it, as Microsoft did claim this was a small scale beta, but one can always speculate.

on Wed 27 Aug 2008 (10:42 GMT) (2731 views)
In a week's time, we will send out mass invitation to previous Windows Live beta testers, which means you probably will receive a second invitation for this beta. When you receive the second e-mail, please ignore it. Do NOT take the nomination survey because by that time you should already be approved in this beta, there is no need to waste your time and ours.
We do not currently know if this also includes Windows Live Messenger 9. A couple of things suggest it would: M2 has been expected for a while now and this is common method of gaining beta testers for the program. However, the leak of the other day may delay or even stop this beta phase of Windows Live Messenger in fear of another beta being leaked (which it always does when a large amount of testers start using it).
Source: Ars Technica's One Microsoft Way blog
- The program now has real Window handlers, at least in Windows Vista
- URLs in personal messages now are clickable
- The groups feature has been updated and become more customisable
- You can now have a favourite contacts list, which appears before other contacts
- There are several glossy effects used within the program
- Display pictures have been moved to the left in conversation windows
- Conservation messages are now in bullet points when sent
- You have now the ability to share photos with contacts
The new build does not currently work with Messenger Plus! Live, and will be unlikely to until Windows Live Messenger 9 is officially released.
Screenshot: Contact List
Screenshot: Conversation Window
Screenshot: About Box
on Thu 21 Aug 2008 (18:40 GMT) (3761 views)
The news that it would do spread quickly, and with good reasons; it was positively received in Yahoo! Messenger for Vista and it would only make sense that Microsoft would mimic their own technology in a piece of software where it appeared natural to do so.
So why won't it be added? Well a source has said that full WPF will only come if it was probably implemented. Adding full WPF would require an entire re-code on the main structure of Messenger, something a piece of software that is so very visually based would take a significant development period to implement. Although full WPF hasn't been ruled out as coming to Windows Live Messenger, in order to make it to a high standard it would require more time and therefore will not come to version 9.
To sum up, full WPF won't be coming to Windows Live Messenger version 9, although some WPF effects will be present. This does not rule out it coming in the future: if anything it seems likely and, although nothing is confirmed, it has been strongly hinted at. If it ever did, it would be implemented well.




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