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Turnaround? Is Messenger Plus! back on track?
Posted by absorbation on Sun 21 Feb 2010 (22:20 GMT) (8191 views)
It has been a tough month for the Messenger Plus! community, with news the software has a new distributor and that its developer Patchou now only maintains a limited role. After weeks of unanswered emails and issues about poor relationships with the new developer Yuna Software, there appears to have been a crucial turning point that may mean our these worries are not valid.


"Back to the roots ... for a fresh start"

This was the title of a post Patchou made to his community on Thursday, where he addressed the concerns of its members who feel that the software has taken a turn in the wrong direction. Patchou has since attempted to reassure his users and had some good news to tell:

I'm back in charge of things. That means you can ask me questions, like you did before (and I'll take too much time to answer some of them, as I did before ). That also means that software development is back on track, with proper releases, documented changes in the change log.



Although Yuna Software is still present and the current distributor of Messenger Plus! Live, its overseeing powers have been reduced. Patchou is sovereign again, which is a great thing. Add to this that there with be several new developers working on Plus! may mean more features and a smaller timeframe between releases.

Patchou has changed his avatar of the forums to one he used when developing Messenger Plus! 3 as a reflection on returning to his roots.


Willz leaves skinning

Following from our post on the decline of Messenger skinning, Willz has told the Messenger Plus! community that he intends to leave skinning due to time constraints and creative differences between Yuna Software. Although he did suggest if improvements were made, he would return again. Nevertheless it is still a blow for skinning as there will no doubtedly be less activity from someone who has done much to keep the skinning community alive in recent years.

Read Patchou's full announcement


Is Messenger skinning in decline?
Posted by absorbation on Sat 06 Feb 2010 (17:06 GMT) (18555 views)
The days of MSN Messenger painted a vibrant community of designers who were keen to hack into the program's resources and create some polished, unique and excellent skins. When I joined the community back in February 2005 there was an vast array of high quality and imaginative skin designs to choose from, but today with Windows Live Messenger 2009, the community seems to have become stagnant.

Wait a minute, but surely skinning now has more depth and a smaller learning curve thanks to Messenger Plus! Live? While this is true the issue today is the end a thriving community to extrapolate anything from the available modern resources.


Looking back to MSN Messenger 7.5

For me MSN Messenger was the golden era of skin development. Granted there were significantly fewer releases, it is difficult to argue the quality of most end products were nothing short of spectacular. One could argue MSN Messenger was unattractive and users wanted something different, encouraging skinners? I disagree, looking at designs of the past there was just a different caliber of designer.



Pictured above: A small selection of excellent MSN Messenger skins


Back then skinning was more complicated. All resources were individually modified, there were custom installers created and many tutorials were constructed on editing individual build's UIFiles. The talent out there was uncanny. Names such as Terill, the unknown, ipab, Stian, Matti and Rolando may not ring any bells for some, but these individuals were the core of the community. I apologise if I left anyone from that list, including Willz (but your relevance lasts until today).


The issues with Windows Live Messenger

Perhaps the turning point was when the first builds of Windows Live Messenger leaked. The new UI system of .rle files meant skinning images became impossible. For months there were several solutions being developed to allow images to be successfully edited again. In this time many skinners, including myself moved onto other projects. The prospect of designing skins seemed too much effort. Many of the skinners listed above never created anything for Windows Live Messenger. The dedicated forums to Messenger skinning went down.


With Windows Live Messenger came a significant hurdle for skin developers


There is a further argument that with Windows Live Messenger's new UI, the program became attractive enough not to encourage users to seek skins. I no long use skins as I'm perfectly satisfied with the current default design. I however, expect fall into the minority of users.


Are skins still popular?

Messenger Plus! Live has done much to revive the skinning community, allowing a new generation of designers to take the baton before it was dropped. Nevertheless its forums have become rather lifeless in recent months and skins for Windows Live Messenger 2009 have been few and far between. The Messenger Plus! Community has been commenting on the situation:

Most skinners, specially the good ones like Willz, are extremely busy with their personal lifes. And, unfortunately, there aren't that many people interested in making skins, only in requesting/using them.


The decline of IM in itself fails to attract new developers, and although the skinning platform is now more open, there is a lack of talent willing to exploit it. Windows Live Messenger 2009 has been the worse major Messenger build in terms of skinning developers and much of this boils down to the lack of designers who know what they are doing (excluding Willz).



Willz, a monopoly developer of the current skins has stated:

It happened with the transition to MSN Messenger to Windows Live Messenger. There were at least 7 people making skins at that time and then all of a sudden they all disappeared leaving about 3.

Its the same thing now, it's just up to someone new to come in a keep things going. Really a person can only skin for so long before their personal lives become more involved and it becomes time to move on.

Ultimately its up to the new people to carry things onto 2010.



MenthiX, moderator of the Messenger Plus! Skins database commented:

Looking at the raw stats it doesn't look so bad. Still millions of people using Plus!, number of active users fairly steady, certainly when you take into account the long time since the last major Plus! release (which always gives a nice boost). People are still downloading skins.




Messenger Plus! Live has created more resources for skinners, including shaping of windows


To conclude

Currently Messenger skinning is in decline. There are fewer developers and many (not all) of the ones present lack the eye for good UI design. The once glory days of the MSN Messenger era appear to be over, but hopefully with Windows Live Messenger 2010 and a more open skinning platform there will be some talented individuals attracted to the application. Thus in answer to the original question, no skinning is not dead and skins are still popular, however the current health of the community has left current developments on the whole rather motionless.


TheBlasphemer in 2009: LiveScratcher and Stuffplug 4?
Posted by absorbation on Tue 14 Jul 2009 (19:28 GMT) (4815 views)
TheBlasphemer has been on the Messenger scene for many years now and has often provided a backbone to many developers in creating projects involving MSN/ Windows Live Messenger. He is perhaps most famous for his successful Messenger add-on StuffPlug, but has contributed to the skinning community and worked on Web2Messenger among many other things. His next project is dubbed LiveScratcher, an application aimed to provide more open access for Messenger developers by simplifying Messenger's poor API and allowing simple, yet powerful scripts to be created from it.


LiveScratcher: "A modular extension platform for Messenger"

TheBlasphemer's latest project is an add-on for Windows Live Messenger that will add the ability to quickly add new features or functionality. The name is a made up combination of Live Scriptable Patcher. It is something I'm personality interested in and so should any developer for Windows Live Messenger. In a recent post on his blog TheBlasphemer expanded on its recent development:

For now I'm aiming for something that is on-par with Messenger Plus!'s scripting, but once I reach that I hope to keep expanding and surpass it greatly. One of the advantages I have is the extensibility. Each package can export certain functionality, and as such anyone is free to extend the API as they wish. Someone could make a package solely dedicated to communicating with facebook or twitter, and other developers can then use those packages from their scripts, for example creating a script that keeps your facebook or twitter friends updated on how many contacts you have.



I suggest giving the full post a read to know and understand the features LiveScratcher will offer. If you think you may use the program any time drop TheBlasphemer a message or comment and you may be able to beta test the application. Make sure to subscribe to the RSS feed so not to miss any future updates.


StuffPlug 4: A no-show?

Details of an upcoming StuffPlug are rather difficult to find, simply because the program is not activity being developed. It should be noted TheBlasphemer attends a prestigious university and undertakes a demanding course and this takes a lot out of his time. LiveScratcher is being developed in his summer break and it will most likely be the case StuffPlug will receive no updates this year. With it being over 18 months since StuffPlug 3.5.590 was released and no compatible program available for Windows Live Messenger 2009 it simply may be the case of making the current version compatible. Below is his response when I asked him this very question:

StuffPlug 3 was a pretty big mess to start with. I could cope with minor upgrades like 8.0 to 8.5. I relied heavily on certain stuff in messenger that got taken out or majorly overhauled in Messenger 9, like the UIFile parser or the way data binding worked, that I would need to re-write so many parts of StuffPlug3 to get it to work. I think it's better to start from scratch on something new.



I then asked him if he could see himself having time for StuffPlug. His response is as follows:

Well, I'm trying to. Lately I'd been very busy juggling between University and having a social life, but I've got one month holiday (= this month, July) where I haven't planned anything else, and hope to get some major work done. Staying at my parents (= no need to worry about food, laundry, or other distractions) definitely helps to.


I'm not sure what happens after July though.


Maybe I'll end up staying motivated as I've got something more tangible at that point, maybe I'll be too busy with uni and social life as before, I never really know for sure.


In a recent interview with mynetx he had this to say when addressed about StuffPlug 4:

Yes, hope­ful­ly at some point :) My slo­gan while de­vel­op­ing is "Hmm, I won­der if I can do this better ...



We must appreciate that unlike Patchou with Messenger Plus! Live, TheBlasphemer does not devote all his time into StuffPlug and this obviously limits its development. Still however, the fact that he still wants to continue and is willing to make time for the program is nothing but a positive thing. In short StuffPlug is still alive, but it may be a while before it starts kicking.

Until then Messenger developers in particular can get excited about LiveScratcher, something which shall provide a worthwhile asset to anyone wanting to add inspiration to Microsoft's IM client.

Source: LiveScratcher: Now what?
Visit TheBlasphemer's blog to stay in the know about upcoming developments


Interview with leading Messenger skinner, Will Ingles
Posted by absorbation on Sun 26 Apr 2009 (23:10 GMT) (2876 views)
If you know anything about skinning, you must of heard of Will Ingles, who has been the most active skinner using the engine of Messenger Plus! Live. He has created some of the most unique and popular skins for Windows Live Messenger, and I can even remember him when he was skinning MSN Messenger 7. Passion, time and polish goes into each skin he creates and thus his work is usually set as a benchmark for any skin you see in Messenger today. Mynetx managed to get an interview with Will to learn more about his work:

mynetx: Skins - good word. Is cus­tomiz­ing the Mes­sen­ger in­ter­face fun for you? Or a se­ri­ous busi­ness? Or in be­tween?

Will: Well a bit of both re­al­ly. Orig­i­nal­ly I start­ed skin­ning as a hobby so that I could help im­prove my abil­i­ties as a mul­ti­me­dia de­sign­er. I was hop­ing that by work­ing with an es­tab­lished user in­ter­face I would be able to gain a deep­er un­der­stand­ing as to how the user in­ter­prets UI’s.

I never re­al­ly ex­pect­ed to be doing it for that much main­ly be­cause I didn’t think that au­di­ence was big enough at the time. But it seems that has changed in re­cent times so now I do treat it more se­ri­ous­ly.

But yeah for the most part there is still the orig­i­nal sense of fun which at­tract­ed me to doing it in the first place.



View the rest of the interview at Mynetx's blog


Windows Live Messenger 10: Improvements for the future?
Posted by .lou on Fri 06 Mar 2009 (03:13 GMT) (13450 views)
There are many things that Microsoft have done right in the past. They properly got their operating system to be, by far, one of the most popular (if not the most popular) ones out there. They properly made their Office Suite one that a large amount of people use. They have diversified, they have made their name be known by all. But was it all success?

There are quite a few things that Microsoft have done wrong with each of their programs/applications, operating systems, etc. Let's take a look at Windows Live messenger's cons, instead of always defending the pros of the application. Let's hope they can fix these things for Windows Live Messenger 10/ 2010.


File Transfers

They are slow compared to other applications. The transfers are limited (under normal circumstances) to three at a time. What for? No browser limits me to that, why should my instant messenger do it? The progress bar isn't as detailed as one would expect (perhaps an estimated time remaining, like most people have come to be accustomed with other programs?).

Added: Dempsey's comment (see comments for this article) states a good point; why can't we resume file transfers with a person when both are online? It would be nice to be able to pause them, and resume, and it shouldn't be that complicated.

Invite feature?

Sorry to break it to you Microsoft, but that's not an invite button at all. That's a "force this contact into this conversation" button. This means that your email can get revealed to someone you may not want, you may be forced into a conversation with way too many people, perhaps even people you have blocked. Instead of labelling it invite, if you're not going to make a proper invite feature, why not label it "Force a contact to join this conversation"?

Customization

Although this has improved lately with the new "Layout" tab in the options, Windows Live Messenger doesn't have half as much customization from the base product as it should. Users requested skinning for so long, why is it that Patchou had to be the one to add it in? They say they listen to user feedback, yet the closest step they have taken to skinning in all the years is probably backgrounds in conversation windows, and the new scenes. On that note, it seems that you can't have a scene that fits everyone, many contacts will see it distorted in some way.

Forced updates

What's with that? Forcing users to update, otherwise they can't use the application? Sure, it might fix an exploit, and in that case it's understandable. But otherwise? Why would you force users to update if it's not to actually make it safer? At least give them the choice to update right away or not. It's their computer after all.

The contact list

Why can we not order the contacts in any way we want? It's possible now with the favourite group, but other than that, it's alphabetical or online versus offline, and that's it. What if I want certain contacts to be at the top all the time, regardless? Drag and drop should work every time, for whatever I want to do.

Tabbed chats?

Sure, Messenger Plus! does it, and quite great. It would suck to steal from Messenger Plus!, but if they listened to users' feedback over the years, Messenger Plus! would not have had to implement it. Users have requested it forever, and never got it. Of course they'll turn to another application to do it, but should they have to?

Formatting

Don't get me wrong, I love using stuff like Messenger Plus!, and I can tolerate using it for stuff like tabs and all that, because that may not be a feature that everyone wants, but formatting should definitely be implemented directly. The one thing that's useful in conversations is adding bold or italics to emphasize something. Maybe not colours, but at least a way to change the formatting in the middle of a sentence or paragraph. Now I can do it, but only with people that have Messenger Plus! installed as well. What a loss...

Custom emoticons

I love the idea of being able to have custom emoticons, but I hate the idea of people being able to abuse it. I don't want to turn them all off for those few contacts that abuse it. I should be able to set it so only certain contacts can't send me custom emoticons, it should be simple enough.

Polygamy

Why is that not implemented directly? I just don't get it. Thanks again Messenger Plus! (and not to mention Mess Patch and A-patch).

Custom Statuses

That is implemented in most other IM programs, why not this one? Especially now with "brb" gone, I don't want to set my status to away only for a minute or two, yet I want people that decide to start a conversation to be aware that I won't reply right away. It'd be nice to have custom statuses. Thanks Plus!

Connection/servers

Sure, it's normal that servers have maintenance and things need to be upgraded and kept well. Why not connect me to a backup server, or a server from another country that while a little bit slower may allow me to still connect? Just because my account is assigned a specific server, when it's down, I shouldn't have to be down with it. There are usually other servers that are up and running, spread the load but keep it active.


Sure there are plenty of things done right with the program, but there are enough things done badly, or less well than they should, to have users complain. Listen up Microsoft, there are voices that wish to be heard; they can help. That's it for my little rant.


Poll: Do you customise Windows Live Messenger using skins?
Posted by absorbation on Wed 11 Feb 2009 (17:21 GMT) (1938 views)
This month's poll is concerned about skinning Messenger and its popularity. Skinning has changed a lot since the release of Windows Live Messenger, and greatly aided by Messenger Plus! Live. However, I've always had the feeling people are less inclined to use skins, with Windows Live Messenger's new and more simple default design, having being significantly preferred to MSN Messenger's interface.

Do you customise Windows Live Messenger using skins?


Jan 2009 poll results

Last month's poll was concerned about the impact of social networking on the popularity of instant messaging. Below are the results:



Messenger Plus! Live 4.80.356 released
Posted by chris on Sun 01 Feb 2009 (13:46 GMT) (2551 views)
Patchou has released Messenger Plus! Live 4.80, the main update this version brings is full compatibility with the final version of Windows Live Messenger 2009. When Patchou says "full compatibility", he means exactly that. You won’t find a light version of your add-on here.

There isn't many visual changes to this version, however there has been a lot of things done "under the hood", which are detailed on the change log section of the Messenger Plus! site.

This release allows external developers to modify Windows Live Messenger's encoded windows files (referred to as UIB files), like in previous versions of Messenger. More information regarding this can be found in the official skinning documentation, which can be downloaded here.

An important note Patchou also mentions, aimed at developers, is that Messenger Plus! isn't required to be installed on the users computer for the UIB function to work, the UIB files created by Messenger Plus! can be read by messenger, just like the original ones. This means you can do modifications you want on your own system, encode the files and then distribute them.


View: Patchou's announcement
Download: Messenger Plus! Live 4.80.356



Windows Live Messenger 2009 has gone final (apparently)
Posted by absorbation on Fri 09 Jan 2009 (15:03 GMT) (6422 views)
The latest release candidate of Windows Live Messenger 2009 (Wave 3 generation) has now become the official first release of the next Messenger milestone. The official announcement came at Steve Ballmer's annual CES conference this week. There are no new builds or changes to the application, so essentially, if you are using the latest RC build of Windows Live Messenger, you now using the final release (the best auto-update I have seen).

Some notes on the update
  1. Skinning is now possible again. Willz has posted he has started work again thanks to a new breakthrough in reserve engineering the skinning engine. The significant worry was patches and skins would no longer we able to work with the update.
  2. A Messenger Plus! Live update is in development, and its skinning engine is still supported. In fact Patchou has to be given credit for restoring skins again. No word on when an update will be coming, all we know is you won't be waiting too much longer now that Windows Live Messenger 2009 is final.


So, after a long development period Windows Live Messenger 9 has finally been released. The update has added a definite polish to the program and it generally feels a less buggy, more robust product. Moreover it came a month before anticipated. The only question now is, what's next for Messenger?

Download Windows Live Messenger 2009



Sopair: The first skin for Windows Live Messenger 9 Wave 3
Posted by RebelSean on Tue 18 Nov 2008 (20:37 GMT) (8685 views)
When Windows Live Messenger 9 Beta was released, we all thought skinning would be impossible. I guess that the new version of Windows Live Messenger hasn't killed skinning completely. The folks over at Design Evolved have broken the restrictions imposed in the new version and have now publicly released a working skin called Sopair.

Although this skin isn't a traditional skin that completely changes the look and feel of Windows Live Messenger, it gives a few cool options for its users. This is just the beginning of what we will be seeing in the next couple of months when Windows Live Messenger 9 final is released. At least we know that it is possible to change the look of Windows Live Messenger. So what are the features?
  • Ability to switch from modern and classic Messenger layouts
  • Add a 3rd display picture to the chat window
  • Ability to move chat window display pictures to the right side
  • Enhance alerts to make them suit the new design better
  • Sign in window matches the design better
  • Ability to restore the send button in chat windows
  • Ability to hide button text
  • Ability to hide buttons
  • Hide "what's new" and tabs
  • Use the new Messenger icons in the Messenger Plus! tabbed chat bar
  • ... and more!

Note: Messenger Plus! Live v4.79 is required to use the skin and it is only compatible with the Windows Live Messenger v14.0.5027.908.

Download: Sopair skin
Download: Messenger Plus! Live 4.79



Skinning Wave 3: What's the future for skinning Messenger?
Posted by absorbation on Tue 14 Oct 2008 (20:01 GMT) (1735 views)
Some of you may of noticed a delay before the mainstream patches were released for the new public beta of Windows Live Messenger 9 Wave 3. This was because the method of changing Messenger's resources had dramatically changed, just like it did with the first betas of 8.0. Skinning enthusiast Willz has pieced together the picture:

For the past few weeks I have been playing around with 9 seeing what has changed and how far we can push things. I have to say that although there are a lot of changes and nearly double the amount of layout files to modify, overall 9 is going to bring some really interesting things to the table. One of the things I am looking forward to playing with is with some of the new effects that Messenger 9 brings such as fades, text glows and other types of animation.


I should also point out that I am only able to modify 9 because of a small workaround that was discovered that allows us to force Messenger to use its old layout files over the new ones. This allows skins, Messenger addons and patches to do their thing on 9 once again. Most people are counting this as a victory saying that stuff is possible again on 9, but really all this was was something to buy us some time. The old layout files have a really high chance of not existing in the final version of 9 so we will be back to square one.


The main problem about 9 still exists and in order for things to survive in the final version of 9 the new layout file format of Messenger 9 has to be figured out properly or we will be stuck with not being able to modify Messenger again. This new layout file isn't standard XML and style information that we can easily edit with any text editor, instead it is some weird file type that can't be read or edited properly without cracking it.


This is one the reasons for the delay of the Messenger Plus! Live public beta (although the feature is working fully for testers), and why patches took so long to be released this time. Willz has also been showing off some new skins, and overall it looks like there is some great new stuff available in Wave 3, despite the workarounds required to achieve them.

Design evolved: Whats happening?
Design evolved: Windows Live Messenger 9 - The Gift and the Curse